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Post by Shadyreaper on Oct 27, 2017 18:31:35 GMT -5
I got 2 sets of DDR and only one does this mobo like it could just be the bios chip I have yet to replace it and try it out but I am looking for more mem to use in it I know 1 working set is not gonna be enough
EDIT: OMFG I just looked at this bios chip it says
PMC 0922 Pm49FL004T-33JCE
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Post by Bones on Oct 27, 2017 21:12:14 GMT -5
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Post by Shadyreaper on Oct 27, 2017 21:37:45 GMT -5
thanks Bones I just wanted to make sure the chip # and shit didnt matter I hope it has the right bios on it I will be testing it out tomorrow if I can gonna replace the chip and see if she will go with the one set of mem I got maybe with this chip the other set I got will work I will keep what you said in mind about the timings
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Post by ozz on Oct 27, 2017 22:20:13 GMT -5
forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20550if you can find these buy em, damn good performers, our wonderful japanese kotori saki san sent me these team ram and i used it in a team cup a couple of yrs ago and pete gave me the corsairs, i think from memory the corsairs do big volts i know that, cant remember , something is ticking at 3.6 v, not sure, pete would remember way better than me, i forget, been so long since i used em these ones i havent tried yet, i bought em for nothing
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Oct 28, 2017 8:45:26 GMT -5
Shane the set I gave you are Winbond 5UTT will run @ 3.6v The set you have bought look like they are Winbond CH5 will also run @ 3.6v
For Corsair All XMS3200XL modules are based Samsung TCCD IC's All XMS3500C2 modules are based Winbond -5 Rev B IC's
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Post by Bones on Oct 28, 2017 12:01:10 GMT -5
thanks Bones I just wanted to make sure the chip # and shit didnt matter I hope it has the right bios on it I will be testing it out tomorrow if I can gonna replace the chip and see if she will go with the one set of mem I got maybe with this chip the other set I got will work I will keep what you said in mind about the timings As long as it works with what you have that's a start and a good thing. Flashing the BIOS chip to a different file is something I'd only do at this point to get it working if it isn't. This is one big reason why I suggested the Nano flashing tool, makes doing that quick and easy without all the fuss of setting it all up just to flash. BTW it's a good idea if you have a truly dead board to remove and save the BIOS chip as a loose spare before you toss it. I'd also archive the BIOS file on it somewhere whether you actually use it yourself later or not, someone else may need it. Once done, erase and flash away to whatever you want to flash in it. Speaking of such I finally found that latest BIOS for the Soyo Dragon MB, archived it back in a better place to make sure I didn't misplace it again.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Oct 28, 2017 12:52:59 GMT -5
thanks guys Bones the chip I got I got it from biosdepot it was listed for NF4 ultra-d / SLI-DR on the package it is labeled NF4 ultra d
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Post by Shadyreaper on Oct 28, 2017 12:58:01 GMT -5
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Post by Aleslammer on Oct 28, 2017 13:19:45 GMT -5
See these once and a while on eBay G. Skill F1-3200PHU2-2GBZX have used them in a DFI. Have three sets, 2 are outstanding one is average, TCCD voltage, timings and speed.
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Post by Bones on Oct 28, 2017 13:35:13 GMT -5
thanks guys Bones the chip I got I got it from biosdepot it was listed for NF4 ultra-d / SLI-DR on the package it is labeled NF4 ultra d It should work, pop it in and see what goes. Of course make sure you pop it in correctly, the little dot / beveled area on the chip goes to the same side as the arrow down in the chip's socket on the board.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Oct 28, 2017 13:41:59 GMT -5
thanks guys Bones the chip I got I got it from biosdepot it was listed for NF4 ultra-d / SLI-DR on the package it is labeled NF4 ultra d It should work, pop it in and see what goes. Of course make sure you pop it in correctly, the little dot / beveled area on the chip goes to the same side as the arrow down in the chip's socket on the board. yea I am gonna mess with it tomorrow I just got home from work think I am gonna game for a bit since I havent played in about 2 weeks LMAO I might mess with it later tonight just depends
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Post by Shadyreaper on Oct 28, 2017 15:20:28 GMT -5
ok so same shit different day with DFI mobo still CMOS checksum error even after chip change dunno what is going on what I am doing wrong but I go into bios and just try to change the date and save it and it locks up gotta clear cmos but if I just let it go to splash screen say the cmos error and hit F1 instead of entering the bios it will go to boot and ask for HDD so I can prob install windows and get that far but nothing in the bios works
I know I get the CMOS checksum error from clearing the cmos but why when I go into the bios it wont let me save nothing without freezing? and having to clear it out everytime to get it to come back on to the bios screen
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Oct 28, 2017 16:16:56 GMT -5
Ok you have only got 1 CPU and 1 set of ram for testing I take it? If so I would definitely get another working CPU and ram to test further.
What does it actually do after you go into bios and save its got 4 leds on it that should go out one after the other. First one out is CPU Good Second one out is memory good Third one out is GPU good Forth is peripheral check. Once all out it should look for an Operating system. When it locks up how many Leds are still lit?
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Post by ozz on Oct 28, 2017 16:57:33 GMT -5
Shane the set I gave you are Winbond 5UTT will run @ 3.6v The set you have bought look like they are Winbond CH5 will also run @ 3.6v For Corsair All XMS3200XL modules are based Samsung TCCD IC's All XMS3500C2 modules are based Winbond -5 Rev B IC's ah ok pete thx, i paid $11.75 with $8.50 postage for em for 2 sets, 1 set of diff basics , a bargain
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Post by Shadyreaper on Oct 28, 2017 16:59:41 GMT -5
Ok you have only got 1 CPU and 1 set of ram for testing I take it? If so I would definitely get another working CPU and ram to test further. What does it actually do after you go into bios and save its got 4 leds on it that should go out one after the other. First one out is CPU Good Second one out is memory good Third one out is GPU good Forth is peripheral check. Once all out it should look for an Operating system. When it locks up how many Leds are still lit? I got 3 CPUs 2 sets of ram and a single stick only 1 set and the single stick will the thing make it to the bios now after I clear the cmos and it comes back on I can hit F1 or DEL for bios when I hit DEL and enter the bios all I do is set date or not even that and click save and exit normally when it comes on after cmos all the lights go out but if I save and exit bios the 1st light to the far right blinks off and back on and all 4 lights stay on fan revs to max and nothing just sit there is blank screen
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Post by Shadyreaper on Oct 28, 2017 17:16:30 GMT -5
now if I clear CMOS let it go past splash screen it will say F1 to load defaults and continue or DEL to enter bios if I click F1 it will try to boot a HDD like normal but if I shut it off and turn it back on all the lights stay lit and same as if I entered the bios and tried to save and exit just freezes and no slash screen I have thought of letting it run and install win or make a dos usb drive and try to flash the bios and see what happens cause I really want this board to work
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Oct 28, 2017 17:45:48 GMT -5
Go here and download Memtest 4.3.7 image for bootable CD. www.memtest86.com/download.htmOn a W7 or later computer right click on the ISO file and burn it to a CD it will make a bootable Memtest disk. Plug only a CDrom into the sata port no Hard disk and boot, it should boot to the CD and run memtest. Take note of the CPU and ram speed that its running at then try setting those speeds manually in bios.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Oct 28, 2017 17:57:05 GMT -5
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Oct 28, 2017 18:35:58 GMT -5
They are Samsung TCCD and should work good in the Ultra D
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Post by ozz on Oct 28, 2017 19:01:35 GMT -5
They are Samsung TCCD and should work good in the Ultra D a bloody good price too, wished we could get em here for that price, i got a set of them too thx to pete
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Post by Bones on Oct 28, 2017 20:48:15 GMT -5
Nice find! Be sure you don't go above 3.0v's with them, TCCD doesn't tolerate high voltages like BH5 / CH5 needs to run. I'd actually try these with 2.9v's and see how far they will clock. Some sets will do great, some fine or just OK so you'll have to mess around with them to see. If you do volt them up be sure you have a fan or something on these so they won't get too hot. Also know since these are TCCD there is no need to move the RAM jumper for extra RAM voltage on the board, 3.2v's max is plenty to stretch these out if you ever go that high with them but I suggest a max of 3.0v's and no more, possibly 3.1v's if wanting to go for max RAM speed records. It does sound like you may have a bad stick of RAM in your board, if so these should fix you up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 20:56:30 GMT -5
Yes good buy ... 1/2 price for what ebay sellers usually charge. Discussions with Chris months ago ... thinks I may have the Dfi nf4 expert version here. Are they rare now chaps? as all expended/ expired from big efforts. Sure looks like this pic. www.anandtech.com/show/1874/2Kind of inspired reading in here to see if it works.
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Post by ozz on Oct 28, 2017 21:06:09 GMT -5
ultra D is different n the board layout than the venus or expert, but all have the same chipset, but can have different bioses , same as all versions of all boards, i have the venus and 3 ultra D boards, and a dfi 3200 CFX-DR , its a shitter, wont boot, the ultra D have the ram slots to the right of the cpu socket, venus and expert have the ram slots between the cpu socket and the back plane, im still yet to find the difference in the venus and the expert boards other than the name
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 23:04:49 GMT -5
Little experience on them Ozz. Briefly I was interested because I loved Socket A & 939 was the natural progression. Just a collecting thing. There is importance though to see if some of these work. It's a blessing to have so much & a curse for their longevity. Overclocking this year & finally being able to release some parts from boxes ... so much fun I'm lucky in here with you guys ... so much knowledge on the older sockets
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Post by ozz on Oct 28, 2017 23:46:20 GMT -5
what ive been taught and learnt has been from masters at it, and this forum has quite a few with DFI, much more capable than i am at it, but i give it me best every time i go to this platform, theyre a bitch of a board, but when and if you work them out theyre a beautiful board, very ram picky, can be very cpu picky as well, but if you get it right and it likes it youre in for good fun to clock with, no matter what platform with DFI, unfortunately DFI support has no gone, all they do now is server stuff, i know , ive spoken with the DFI people about it in length, all DFI desktop stuff is discontinued from their servers unless its been taken and posted elsewhere and thats straight from DFI when i spoke last coz i had all the DFI everything from them that they had on file b4 they tirned off the servers for desktop, i didnt back it up and then W7 crashed on me and i lost it , when i contacted them again the servers were turned off so i couldnt get it again , so what ever you got with DFI save it somewhere , coz the only place youre gunna get it now is from someone thats saved it
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Post by Bones on Oct 29, 2017 2:34:51 GMT -5
Yes good buy ... 1/2 price for what ebay sellers usually charge. Discussions with Chris months ago ... thinks I may have the Dfi nf4 expert version here. Are they rare now chaps? as all expended/ expired from big efforts. Sure looks like this pic. www.anandtech.com/show/1874/2Kind of inspired reading in here to see if it works. Getting that way, you rarely see them up for grabs and at least some you do spot are either broken or have been ragged to death. I've bought a few that needed fixing and got lucky with the majority of them, sold 2 to Ale earlier and I hope they serve him well. Still have one left and keeping that one while also keeping an eye out for maybe one more that I may find broken but can fix like the rest. All total I have enough DFI's to do me for 939 period so I'm actually set with them but one more coudn't hurt you know. RAM slots with an Expert / Venus are to the left of the CPU socket and Ultra D versions have RAM slots above the CPU socket. The CRX3200 is like the Expert / Venus boards but easily identified by the ATI logo on the board along with it's model name. Ozz, do you think the reason why your 3200 won't boot is due to a bad / borked BIOS? I can extract the file from my board and post it if you want. BTW the CFX3200 is a good board, clocks well with plenty of options like the Experts have, however it doesn't clock as well overall but with the right chip it can go. Suggested to run a chip with a higher mulitplier set or an FX version for best results. The RDX200 while it's layed out like the Expert / CFX3200's isn't a good board for OC"ing even though nearly all the options are there as well, it just won't do the trick for high clocks period. Have one here and I'm lucky sometimes to get it over 260 on the bus when I do bother with it. If you spot one with the ATI logo on it, MAKE SURE of the actual model number before buying since aside from the model name the RDX200 and the CFX3200 look identical overall.
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Post by Shadyreaper on Oct 29, 2017 6:58:20 GMT -5
yea I seen those sticks and I said they are 2-2-2-5 they have the 3200XL model # for samsungs and $12.50 for 4 sticks I said I better grab those before they are gone cause I got the 478 mobo also that takes DDR and I have now learned more then 1 or 2 sets of ram is gonna be needed I got 3 sets of DDR3 now 4 DDR2 sets 2 DDR and 1 single stick of DDR and now I got that set of 4 that will be shipped out monday
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Oct 29, 2017 8:12:00 GMT -5
I have got 3 Ultra D's and a Venus here the Venus is in the original box with all the original accessories. There is no noticeable performance difference between the 2 different versions. The main difference is the layout and the Ultra D has the Mem Voltage jumper block as well as the PCIe jumper block whereas the Venus all the settings are in Bios. I just use one of the Ultra D's when I bench 939.
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Post by ozz on Oct 29, 2017 21:11:29 GMT -5
Yes good buy ... 1/2 price for what ebay sellers usually charge. Discussions with Chris months ago ... thinks I may have the Dfi nf4 expert version here. Are they rare now chaps? as all expended/ expired from big efforts. Sure looks like this pic. www.anandtech.com/show/1874/2Kind of inspired reading in here to see if it works. Getting that way, you rarely see them up for grabs and at least some you do spot are either broken or have been ragged to death. I've bought a few that needed fixing and got lucky with the majority of them, sold 2 to Ale earlier and I hope they serve him well. Still have one left and keeping that one while also keeping an eye out for maybe one more that I may find broken but can fix like the rest. All total I have enough DFI's to do me for 939 period so I'm actually set with them but one more coudn't hurt you know. RAM slots with an Expert / Venus are to the left of the CPU socket and Ultra D versions have RAM slots above the CPU socket. The CRX3200 is like the Expert / Venus boards but easily identified by the ATI logo on the board along with it's model name. Ozz, do you think the reason why your 3200 won't boot is due to a bad / borked BIOS? I can extract the file from my board and post it if you want. BTW the CFX3200 is a good board, clocks well with plenty of options like the Experts have, however it doesn't clock as well overall but with the right chip it can go. Suggested to run a chip with a higher mulitplier set or an FX version for best results. The RDX200 while it's layed out like the Expert / CFX3200's isn't a good board for OC"ing even though nearly all the options are there as well, it just won't do the trick for high clocks period. Have one here and I'm lucky sometimes to get it over 260 on the bus when I do bother with it. If you spot one with the ATI logo on it, MAKE SURE of the actual model number before buying since aside from the model name the RDX200 and the CFX3200 look identical overall. i really dunno know rods, problem is it gives erratic readouts on the LED thing, it works sometimes then doesnt work, something the guy never told me about, if id known this i wouldnt have gone near it at all, but least i got a 165 oppy out of it that works ok, its like it wants to boot sometimes and then it doesnt want to know about anything, he said it would boot sometimes and not others so i took the chance on it, and i havent been able to get it to boot once yet
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Post by Bones on Oct 29, 2017 22:59:47 GMT -5
If the BIOS is corrupt then a reflash of the chip should fix it. If the BIOS chip itself has gone bad then you'd have to replace it and the BIOS too.
Getting a copy of a working BIOS in any case isn't a bad idea, I can do that for you at anytime. Also know I found that latest BIOS file for the Soyo Dragon and archived it back so I'd never misplace it again. If you still have that board and want it that's not a prob as well.
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