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Post by ozz on Dec 18, 2016 6:13:01 GMT -5
6.3v 3300Uf caps I would say you could have your first go at cap replacement. I have got plenty of those in stock. you ripper pete, ill be in that for sure, that would be fun and a challenge for me, i can solder ok, but never tried anything on a mobo b4 and with this i have nothing to lose if i stuff it up, i do wanna see if it boots as it is first then ill know when i do the caps if i did it ok
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 18, 2016 6:45:12 GMT -5
It mightnt actually boot but it should power on ok.
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Post by ozz on Dec 18, 2016 6:55:30 GMT -5
It mightnt actually boot but it should power on ok. ah righto pete, hoping it powers up and boots, either way itll be a good excercise for me to try and if it all works out even better
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Post by ozz on Dec 18, 2016 8:29:03 GMT -5
well it powers up, both cpu and nb fans spinup, gpu fan spins up too, but got a singular beep first up one beep after the other...changed ram, gpu, cpu, no beeps now but not booting
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 18, 2016 8:34:56 GMT -5
Typical Soyo Dragon board. Always suffered from bad caps syndrome.
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Post by Bones on Dec 18, 2016 14:39:19 GMT -5
Typical Soyo Dragon board. Always suffered from bad caps syndrome. How true - My Soyo Dragon needs recapping itself but it does work still. My Soyo is identical and will not run Barton chips, only T-Breds, Pally chips and older - Was never meant to run a Barton core but it's capable of some decent clocks with the right T-Bred such as a 2400+ chip. There are a few mods for it and here's one: www.ocinside.de/workshop_en/soyo_sy_k7v_dragon_plus_vcore/Possible to run a Barton with this mod applied:http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?377836-K7V-D-Mod-Instructions
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 18, 2016 16:48:22 GMT -5
I didnt think it would run Bartons. Still its a learning exercise.
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Post by ozz on Dec 18, 2016 18:59:53 GMT -5
thx for the link rods, bit out of my knowledge base tho at this stage of the game
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 18, 2016 19:20:58 GMT -5
Don't psych yourself out. Overclocking socket A isn't hard. It's very similar to 939. It's tweaking to get a good bench score that makes them hard.
A taste of socket A overclocking is a basic staple for any decent overclocker.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 18, 2016 19:28:33 GMT -5
More soldering for you a simple voltmod. You will be cooking with gas.
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Post by ozz on Dec 18, 2016 19:30:16 GMT -5
reall scotty im not worried about the overclocking side of it, i reckon ill work that out easily enough especially if i can do 939 already, its the modding side thats were its somewhat out of my league
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Post by ozz on Dec 18, 2016 20:48:03 GMT -5
im getting hhd activity light, i can feel and hear the hdd spinning, cd is working too but no hhd drive light for activity, would this be the caps causing this, changed hhds and same thing, changed agp cards and the same thing also
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Post by Mr.Scott on Dec 18, 2016 21:17:44 GMT -5
No. That has to do with the cable, and the setup of the bios and OS.
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Post by ozz on Dec 18, 2016 21:32:58 GMT -5
No. That has to do with the cable, and the setup of the bios and OS. i cant even get into the bios scotty, ive got nothing on the screen, ive tried everything i know lol, i even tried this adapter thing ive got, it plugs into the ide port and converts it to sata for a ssd or mechanical sata drive, still no hdd activity goin over to petes 2mozz arvo petes gunna show me how to replace these caps and see what happens with it, i want this board to be a goer to play with so i can learn more about 462, so thats the plan
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Post by Bones on Dec 19, 2016 22:50:15 GMT -5
Most likely it is a cap(s) stopping it and I'd get the BIOS chip itself checked to be sure it's OK and to be sure it's file hasn't been corrupted somehow.
I can extract the one from this board if needed and it is the latest BIOS file for it.
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Post by ozz on Dec 20, 2016 1:00:56 GMT -5
ah well we replaced 5 caps and its still the same, spose the only thing i can do now is a bios chip, had a look and cany seen to find a whole lot about it, came across this tho, dunno if its the latest bios and dunno if this is a trustworthy site or not pete that tool you made to R&R the caps is a ball biter, works like a cracker, they come off so quick when the solder is right and go on the same way... i appreciate what you did for me mate, thx heaps trying to get this bitch going...and blow me down he gave me a DFI NF11 rev A to play with and another cpu www.downloadplex.com/tags/soyo+k7vxa+dragon+bios/Page-1-49-0-0-0.html
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Dec 20, 2016 2:02:33 GMT -5
Most likely it is a cap(s) stopping it and I'd get the BIOS chip itself checked to be sure it's OK and to be sure it's file hasn't been corrupted somehow. I can extract the one from this board if needed and it is the latest BIOS file for it. That would be great Rodney if you could upload it just attach it in the thread.
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Post by ozz on Dec 20, 2016 2:14:33 GMT -5
yes rods thx mate , im interested to see if your bios is the same as the link i posted, never know the bios chip itself may have shit itself
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Post by Bones on Dec 20, 2016 2:23:07 GMT -5
I'll get it extracted with the USB flasher in a bit and post the file up. Be sure to double-check and make sure these boards are identical, mine is a Soyo K7V Dragon Plus! with the KT266 chipset.
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Post by ozz on Dec 20, 2016 2:35:41 GMT -5
I'll get it extracted with the USB flasher in a bit and post the file up. Be sure to double-check and make sure these boards are identical, mine is a Soyo K7V Dragon Plus! with the KT266 chipset. its the same board by name on the board but dunno about the chipset, dunno how to check that it appears to me the soyo group inc from what ive read so far, dont make motherboards anymore, actually cant find anything other than other parties info on it
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Post by Bones on Dec 20, 2016 3:43:56 GMT -5
Took a pic of mine, compare it to yours and I believe it is the same except for the really bad looking caps but this one still works as is. Having issues getting the BIOS from it's chip, it's a driver problem between the system and the programmer, I'll have to work on that and post it up once I get the BIOS file. EDIT: I did find a file using Wayback machine and it's one of the later files but not the latest. Was taken directly from an archived page they had saved and was able to download the file so it should work. Of course be sure to scan it but I believe it's OK. kvxa2ba7.zip (208.15 KB)
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Post by ozz on Dec 20, 2016 4:08:08 GMT -5
yep same board other than someone has put a NB cooler and fan on it, bloody zip files, they stuff me up every time, ill ask pete to check it for me , bit outta my league there, but thx and appreciate your input tryin to help rods ..cheers
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Post by Bones on Dec 20, 2016 12:43:29 GMT -5
The NB cooler with these is supposed to have a fan, I took this one off to try a different cooler and never put the stock one back on. The chipset will get hot if it's OC'ed and suggest a good cooler with a fan. Bit of history - Soyo back in the day was amongst the top three makes with Abit and another make I cannot recall ATM and were known to be performers..... That is until the NF2 chipset came out changing the game for everyone. Since Soyo had already been roped into an exclusive use contract by VIA it wasn't long before they were feeling the effects of it and quickly lost their rep for performance. They then made the decision to get out of making MB's for consumer use and with emphasis on more industrial pieces the quality for consumer boards began to go down. The problem with bad caps during this time didn't help either but since Soyo was already headed out the door in terms of the consumer market the issue didn't affect them much at all and they completed getting out of consumer board making without any real problems, certainly nothing like Abit ran into. DFI did more or less the same thing years later, I'm not 100% sure if Soyo itself is still operating as a company today but that's what they did at that time. I've noted that roughly after these models onward the quality was definitly less, they still had some good ones but the move to make the change was on. That's the history I've picked up reading about how Soyo went from being one of the top enthusiast makes to just not in the game at all, the way the did it and the reasons why. EDIT: Found a wiki on the company. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyo_Group
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Post by ozz on Dec 20, 2016 19:46:56 GMT -5
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Post by Bones on Dec 21, 2016 0:03:44 GMT -5
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Post by ozz on Dec 21, 2016 0:50:08 GMT -5
very similar to the dragon plus
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Post by Bones on Dec 21, 2016 15:01:27 GMT -5
Same basic layout and all except for what makes it a KT333 board. You don't see any boards nowadays with a PCB like it.
When I recap the one I have I'll be replacing all the 6.3v 2000mfu caps with 3300mfu ones I have here. There is only one on the board that's still "Good" just by looking but no sense in leaving it since it's just as old as the other bad ones. Have a few others that's bad too of different values and will need to find replacements for those.
I'm suprised it even works at all with these caps but it does, however I know better than to keep booting it up the way it is or that will change quickly.
The manual these came with is like a book and I mean it's THICK with at least 50 pages in it, maybe more.
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Post by ozz on Dec 21, 2016 19:57:17 GMT -5
haha your board has more swollen caps than mine did and yours works, hoping the bios chip flash works, not holding my hopes up too high tho, seems the caps swell around the back plane area near the chokes, suspecting its the heat from the mosfets maybe, dunno, all the other caps look ok , same as your boards other caps do
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Post by ozz on Dec 21, 2016 19:58:27 GMT -5
the creamy grey pcb and sliver caps look good for sure against all the other board component colours
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Post by Bones on Dec 21, 2016 21:18:51 GMT -5
haha your board has more swollen caps than mine did and yours works, hoping the bios chip flash works, not holding my hopes up too high tho, seems the caps swell around the back plane area near the chokes, suspecting its the heat from the mosfets maybe, dunno, all the other caps look ok , same as your boards other caps do These became swollen just sitting, the board itself wasn't used alot beyond 2005 and was only fired up for grins on occasion. There were no bad caps on it when taken out of service, the caps simply became swollen on their own over time. I may have a bad BIOS chip too, that would explain why my flashing module won't read it but I know the last time I tried the board it worked fine.
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