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Post by Mr.Scott on May 13, 2018 7:35:54 GMT -5
I will try to answer your question. Never heard of that particular brand. Most likely Micron though. 4 is tight for DDR2. Occasionally you'll see 3 but at a much decreased speed. Never seen any 2 or 2.5 DDR2. For DDR2, 9600 @ CL4 is mostly what you're looking for.
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Post by Bones on May 13, 2018 11:08:30 GMT -5
@ Ozz: Sorry about the confusion earlier, I honestly thought you was looking at those to possibly buy, I made a few suggestions and my intent was only to help and I didn't do a good job of expressing it. Mr. Scott is right on with the above.
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Post by Aleslammer on May 13, 2018 13:05:29 GMT -5
I'm a little confused with the 9600 @ CL4, are you suggesting what you are hoping to get as I do have a couple kits of DDR2 1200 will run CL4 with a bump in voltage but specs are CL5?
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Post by Mr.Scott on May 13, 2018 13:53:56 GMT -5
I was talking actual specs more than overclocking. There are many CL5 spec'ed sticks that will do CL4 at very high speeds.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on May 13, 2018 17:16:19 GMT -5
I seen his last night and was tired and going to bed Shane has got a silver set of Team Group 3-3-3-8 @ 800 he wont find tighter than that and they go alright too. Shane if you want to find more good ram Ballistix FD5 or FD3 some OCZ9600 are good and some of you have had good Team Extreme 1200 but the 2 sets I have had were very mediocre. Forget the rest
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Post by ozz on May 13, 2018 18:21:26 GMT -5
look all good boys dont worry, sorry for being testy rods, someone i know committed suicide last thursday early morning and it crept up on me, i apologise for being short fused
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Post by ozz on May 13, 2018 19:41:56 GMT -5
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Post by Bones on May 14, 2018 2:22:58 GMT -5
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Post by ozz on May 14, 2018 2:37:44 GMT -5
theyll be d9's for sure i reckon
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Post by Macsbeach98 on May 14, 2018 3:36:43 GMT -5
I wouldnt guarantee that they are only 2.1v
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Post by ozz on May 14, 2018 4:00:40 GMT -5
lol, according to this its a better chance they are than arent, even tho theyre arent listed there,
PC2-4200XBL PDC21G5600+XBLK / PDC22G5600+XBLK 3.0-2-2-4 @ 1.9 ~ 2.0V Micron D9DQW (BT-37E)
PC2-5300 Signature PSD21G667KH / PSD22G667KH 5.0-X-X-X @ 1.8V Powerchip
PC2-5300LL PDC21G5300+LLK / PDC22G5300+LLK 4.0-4-4-12 @ 1.8V Elpida 2B-3A-EL
PC2-5600XBL PDC21G5600+XBLK / PDC22G5600+XBLK 4.0-3-3-12 @ 2.0 ~ 2.1V Micron D9DQW (BT-37E) (some)
PC2-6400 Signature PSD21G800KH / PSD22G800KH 5.0-X-X-X @ 1.8V Powerchip
PC2-6400LL PDC21G6400+LLK / PDC22G6400+LLK 4.0-4-4-12 @ 2.1 ~ 2.2V Elpida AG-6E-E Micron D9GMH (B6-3) Micron D9DQW (BT-37E) Micron D9DQT (BT-3)
PC2-8000EL PDC21G8000+ELK / PDC22G8000+ELK 5.0-5-5-12 @ 2.1V Elpida 2B-25A-EL
PC2-8000LL PDC21G8000+LLK / PDC22G8000+LLK 5.0-5-5-15 @ 2.1 ~ 2.3V Micron D9DQT (BT-3)
PC2-8000XBL PDC21G8000+XBLK / PDC22G8000+XBLK 4.0-4-4-12 @ 2.2V Micron D9GKX (B6-25E)
PC2-9200EL PDC21G9200+ELK / PDC22G9200+ELK 5.0-5-5-15 @ 2.3V Micron D9GMH (B6-3) Micron D9GKX (B6-25E)
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Post by Bones on May 14, 2018 6:05:12 GMT -5
You guys are probrably right. I'm learning how to tell the difference myself, maybe they'll pass on my offer so I can go for another set. Very limited budget here.
With the amount of RAM I'd get it's still not a bad deal but probrably woudn't do any better then the set of PI's I already have that's probrably the cheap stuff too, rated also for 2.1v's with the IC number with these being 9200.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on May 14, 2018 7:35:59 GMT -5
They could go alright Rodney. Looking at Shane's list if its Patriot everything above 6400 thats Micron is 2.2 to 2.3v Being 2.1v they might be Elpida or something else still might be Micron though. Patriot didnt use just Micron no Ram company does (Except Crucial who is owned by Micron) they use what they can get at the time of purchase. The 2.1v would put me off as buying as Micron though Here is a pic of one of my Patriot 9600 2.3v
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Post by Aleslammer on May 14, 2018 11:21:48 GMT -5
The Pats I have are PDC22G9600ELK, 5-5-5-12, 2.3v but don't look like Pete's just have the generic low profile heat spreader. The Axe ram set has nothing on the label about timings or voltage but Newegg shows them as 5-5-5-15, 2.2v. Also have a set of the Ocz Flex labels shows them as 5-5-5, 2.1v haven't used them yet and not counting on a lot don't have a set of Ocz that I really like but keep trying for some reason.
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Post by Shadyreaper on May 14, 2018 11:43:40 GMT -5
I just bought some more OCZ think 2 golds and 4 plats havent even touched them yet
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Post by Bones on May 14, 2018 12:00:55 GMT -5
I'm now seeing that pattern too in their rated voltage. It looks like anything rated for 2.1v's isn't great, 2.2 or 2.3v's tends to be the good stuff with DDR2. I have a set of OCZ plats that did rather well, had to help an aquaintance out that had some bad sticks and gave those to him. If I had known then what I know now I'd given him the PI's instead. I believe I still have a set and need to look for those.
I believe a set that's 2x 1GB rated for at least 2.2v's is what the good stuff is, I've yet to spot a 2X 2GB set that's not rated for 2.1v's.
I will say if I wind up with these it's not all bad, 8GB's of RAM for under $25 isn't a bad deal and could even resell them and recoup my cost and then some with the amount of RAM there is in the deal.
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Post by Aleslammer on May 14, 2018 12:24:03 GMT -5
Most of the OCZ sets I have are DDR and few DDR2/3, they go good but just don't have anything that stand out.
I was kinda wondering about 2x2 to 2x1 also as the DDR2 1200 kits I've seen are 2x1s, would they have used the same IC on the 2G sticks?
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Post by Shadyreaper on May 14, 2018 12:33:42 GMT -5
yea I got 2 golds which are 1066s 2GBx2 and 4 Plat 800s 1GBx4 the golds are 5-6-6 @2.1v and they have the black PCBs PN OCZ2G10664GK
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Post by Bones on May 14, 2018 13:03:31 GMT -5
I believe it's all the same - 2.1v's means it's not a set of D9's, anything rated for 2.2 or 2.3v's probrably is. My OCZ DDR sets are good, nothing that actually stands out like Ale said but they do well, the Golds I have (Rated 2-2-2-5 @3.2v's) are the exception. Although they don't rev as high as I'd like I can sock all the voltage to them I want and they just laugh. They've also shown the ability to run crazy tight timings too in the process,making up for the lack of MHz they seem to have. My older PC 4000ELK Pats (3-4-4-8) are the ones I lean on, they've gone 300 MHz (2.5-3-3-7) before and can still do it even now. Not evey set has to be rated for CL2 to be a good set as these have proven, they'll even run CL2 to at least 250MHz no sweat inspite of their stock rating.
OCZ DDR3 isn't bad if you get a good set but these would be older sets, newer DDR3 sets can and will outdo them and the older sets are suitable for AM3 chips. AM3+ chips don't really like them, same goes for the older AM3's not liking newer sets of DDR3 as much.
If you can match RAM with chips from around the same time of manufacture that's probrably the best you'll do.
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Post by Aleslammer on May 14, 2018 14:32:35 GMT -5
Had a little more DDR2 than I thought but always think in terms of Gold & Platinum not some of the other names used. Do have multiples of the DDR and a few of the variants for the Gold & Platinum. Would have to pull boxes out of the closet for speeds & voltages but most of the DDR2 was played with when I was looking for a DDR2 2x2 set so probably DDR2 800. What I found on my memory list on the Bot.
OCZ DDR Platinum OCZ DDR Titanium OCZ DDR Gold OCZ DDR2 Blade OCZ DDR2 Fatal1ty OCZ DDR2 Nvidia SLI-Ready OCZ DDR2 ATI CrossFire OCZ DDR2 Titanium OCZ DDR2 Reaper HPC OCZ DDR3 Platinum OCZ DDR3 Reaper HPC
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Post by Shadyreaper on May 14, 2018 17:08:04 GMT -5
yea I think I got 1 set of D9s I snagged up not to long ago a set of transcend axeram paid $14 for them too
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Post by Macsbeach98 on May 14, 2018 17:36:58 GMT -5
Had a little more DDR2 than I thought but always think in terms of Gold & Platinum not some of the other names used. Do have multiples of the DDR and a few of the variants for the Gold & Platinum. Would have to pull boxes out of the closet for speeds & voltages but most of the DDR2 was played with when I was looking for a DDR2 2x2 set so probably DDR2 800. What I found on my memory list on the Bot. OCZ DDR Platinum OCZ DDR Titanium OCZ DDR Gold OCZ DDR2 Blade OCZ DDR2 Fatal1ty OCZ DDR2 Nvidia SLI-Ready OCZ DDR2 ATI CrossFire OCZ DDR2 Titanium OCZ DDR2 Reaper HPC OCZ DDR3 Platinum OCZ DDR3 Reaper HPC Thats a nice list there Brad.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on May 14, 2018 17:47:37 GMT -5
I believe a set that's 2x 1GB rated for at least 2.2v's is what the good stuff is, Thats about right I dont worry about the 2x2GB stuff for benching.
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Post by Aleslammer on May 14, 2018 18:56:40 GMT -5
Went through the DDR2 list Pete posted, there were 2G sicks manufactured with D9s so answered that question so went looking for some on Ebay without luck. G Skill made a set of 4-4-4 DDR2 1066 2.3v would be fun to play with. Only thing I found in quantity were Kingston KHX8500D2K2/2G, list shows them as D9s but qualifies with a some.
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Post by Shadyreaper on May 14, 2018 19:05:48 GMT -5
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Post by Bones on May 14, 2018 19:09:47 GMT -5
Just saw someone placed an actual bid on those sticks so now I can hunt for a set like I want, I'm glad this happened now that I more or less know what to look for. Off to see what's out there.
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Post by Mr.Scott on May 14, 2018 19:12:35 GMT -5
G Skill made a set of 4-4-4 DDR2 1066 2.3v would be fun to play with. HZ's. I will send you a set. I never use them.
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Post by Bones on May 14, 2018 19:28:50 GMT -5
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Post by Aleslammer on May 14, 2018 20:00:29 GMT -5
Have two set but never tried them.
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Post by Bones on May 14, 2018 20:11:23 GMT -5
Same with a set of Ballistix DDR set I have - Should be good but since the issue with the heatspreaders acting like insulators these have I've never ran them much if at all. I know the spreaders can be removed, I just have too many other good sets I can use without having to mess with these.
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