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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Aug 3, 2022 6:02:01 GMT -5
Are you trying to run Benchmate on 775 if so good luck on that. One thing I would suggest run W10 you might get Benchmate to work that way with W7 you have to run a older version of Benchmate like 10.7 I think. Ok, but is it allowed to run a w10 ltsc iso for the comp? Would help if i didnt need to do a crap ton of debloating to stop w10 from nuking my runs They didnt really mention enterprise, just server on the rules
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 3, 2022 6:48:30 GMT -5
Submit with it and see if they allow it or it doesnt take all that long to turn off the things you need to for W10. You are going to be no where near the top so just submit with what you can. Then you can work on getting it faster. Also did you get a sub in the CPU frequency I think you have to have a sub in all three stages to be eligible for any prizes.
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Aug 8, 2022 4:39:25 GMT -5
Ive done all 3 subs and rip geekbench single core cause im last place and by quite a bit too xD
now ive got a couple z77 boards which are the z77 g43 and the z77m d3h, the g43 im currently attempting to repair cause its a broken board so focus on the z77m d3h as ive already repaired it and its working fine (powerbutton short so random shutting off)
the z77m d3h bios voltage settings wise is abysmal with the only volt being ram volt xD no vccsa, no vcore, so im looking to crossflash it to a superior bios.
Question is, what are the diff between ds, ud, and up series on giga z77? Also any diff between the non x and x boards? I should be able to flash bios with engineering edition of afudos (found on TAGG XOC channel) though i dont have the means to unbrick it (shitty bios clip that came with my ch341a does not work at all) so im just asking if theres any major diff between em so i can avoid temporarily bricking my board. Best bios in the ds series is the z77x d3h which is alright but i want better, i mean itll prob still lose to asrock and their bioses before haswell are pretty garbage (crossflashed one of their p45 bioses on my p5q once, even the damn z77 oc formula is still kinda meh which i also crossflashed onto a now dead z77 extreme4)
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 8, 2022 5:58:13 GMT -5
afudos is a Asus flash utility for older Asus boards you aint going to flash a gigabyte board with that. I dont know about Gigabyte Z77 flashing I have only used the automatic flash tool that you download from Gigabyte but if its like the Z97 SOC Force you will need the Intel flash utility to back flash. I have 3 Z77 boards a Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H a Z77X-UD5H and a Asrock Fatality Z77 Performance.
The lesser models like you have found are shit thats all to say about them sell them on and Buy something at least half decent.
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Aug 8, 2022 6:54:20 GMT -5
afudos is a Asus flash utility for older Asus boards you aint going to flash a gigabyte board with that. I dont know about Gigabyte Z77 flashing I have only used the automatic flash tool that you download from Gigabyte but if its like the Z97 SOC Force you will need the Intel flash utility to back flash. I have 3 Z77 boards a Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H a Z77X-UD5H and a Asrock Fatality Z77 Performance. The lesser models like you have found are shit thats all to say about them sell them on and Buy something at least half decent. I just ram oc not cpu oc though 2500k have halved in price from 36$ to 17$, may consider one of those Im already looking at other better z77 boards from asus for oc shenanigans but i atleast wanna see if i can improve this crap d3h and make it less shit bios wise So all i need is intel flash utility to crossflash bios?
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Aug 8, 2022 22:31:05 GMT -5
( a now dead z77 extreme4) I tried to tell you that board was just garbage..... But I understand getting your hands on hardware isn't exactly easy.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 9, 2022 2:16:25 GMT -5
I bet its dead from bios cross flashing these later boards are not like Asus P45 where the voltage controllers are all just about the same the higher model bios wont work and will brick boards way beyond his repair capability.
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Aug 9, 2022 9:21:15 GMT -5
( a now dead z77 extreme4) I tried to tell you that board was just garbage..... But I understand getting your hands on hardware isn't exactly easy. Not like i didnt know that, i mean any asrock board before haswell is flaming pile of trash, even the z77 oc formula is a joke with its volt range vs even lower end asus, 1.56v imc? Not enough to kill it thats for sure, 2.1v ddr3? Pathetic even asus can do 2.2v ddr3 on haswell I think ill likely get my hands on another one soon so ill just repair it, crossflash to a bios that isnt garbage but also not abysmal volt range and no pmbus error (likely asus bios this time since its just straight up superior) then just sell it to someone as a boosted board after ofc verifying it wont just implode on itself (while waiting for a buyer), after all every single p5q i get my hands on i flash to my p5qd w maximus ii ebb and sell as boosted boards since they do infact oc better with upgraded bios
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Aug 9, 2022 9:25:57 GMT -5
I bet its dead from bios cross flashing these later boards are not like Asus P45 where the voltage controllers are all just about the same the higher model bios wont work and will brick boards way beyond his repair capability. Whats the major diffs between oc formula and extreme4 other than the layout (which doesnt seem to matter too much considering i flashed a p5q deluxe bios on my p5q w a 2mb bios chip)? Also the extreme4 turned on after i left it for the night after i repaired it and crossflashed so i think the death is by shorted powerbutton on the mobo, after all the same exact thing happened to my p6t deluxe a few days after and i recognized it as powerbutton short since after entering windows it just randomly displays shutting down which only happens when powerbutton is pressed, sprayed the power button and psu 24 pin and its back to normal, and yes i did play with crossflash but that seems to have weird affects on the ram even though p6x58d premium has the same ebb as p6t deluxe v2 bios (can run tighter ram timings particularly cl but 2nd channel dies >1800mhz)
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Aug 9, 2022 16:37:42 GMT -5
I tried to tell you that board was just garbage..... But I understand getting your hands on hardware isn't exactly easy. Not like i didnt know that, i mean any asrock board before haswell is flaming pile of trash, even the z77 oc formula is a joke with its volt range vs even lower end asus, 1.56v imc? Not enough to kill it thats for sure, 2.1v ddr3? Pathetic even asus can do 2.2v ddr3 on haswell I think ill likely get my hands on another one soon so ill just repair it, crossflash to a bios that isnt garbage but also not abysmal volt range and no pmbus error (likely asus bios this time since its just straight up superior) then just sell it to someone as a boosted board after ofc verifying it wont just implode on itself (while waiting for a buyer), after all every single p5q i get my hands on i flash to my p5qd w maximus ii ebb and sell as boosted boards since they do infact oc better with upgraded bios I'm going to be patient as possible.... Z77 is a shit (not the greatest) platform for DDR3 overclocking AGAIN - Z97 OC formula and a 4690K (or similar cpu) and you'll probably be hitting over 2800mhz+++ (1400) effectively, easily and without a bunch of pointless board bricking crossflashing. You'd be better off, as I've already told you - which you don't listen much for good accurate direction - to just ask for a modded bios from our archives that will work for the board. Also -- -- -- QUIT CALLING EVERYTHING GARBAGE None of this you're learning is garbage, but consistently talk as if you KNOW and UNDERSTAND it's garbage and WHY. No D9's aren't garbage, or some bios crossflash bios revision is garbage. _________________ 3 things. Cooling. Know the hardware and it's limitations. Practice. _________________ Cooling, no setting an air cooler on a CPU does not work the same as securing a heat sink. This is not "good" cooling. Know the hardware (limitations) = research and lower your expectations. You're not getting NEW hardware but used and mostly not working properly hardware. This shit ain't gonna clock like you want to expect. Practice = This one should speak for it's self, and you're on the right path. But before you call ANY hardware garbage, practice more first, it's usually the user that isn't getting something correct. _________________ Before you QUOTE AND REPLY to this post - READ IT 3 TIMES FIRST. Then reply. K???
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Aug 9, 2022 19:37:41 GMT -5
Not like i didnt know that, i mean any asrock board before haswell is flaming pile of trash, even the z77 oc formula is a joke with its volt range vs even lower end asus, 1.56v imc? Not enough to kill it thats for sure, 2.1v ddr3? Pathetic even asus can do 2.2v ddr3 on haswell I think ill likely get my hands on another one soon so ill just repair it, crossflash to a bios that isnt garbage but also not abysmal volt range and no pmbus error (likely asus bios this time since its just straight up superior) then just sell it to someone as a boosted board after ofc verifying it wont just implode on itself (while waiting for a buyer), after all every single p5q i get my hands on i flash to my p5qd w maximus ii ebb and sell as boosted boards since they do infact oc better with upgraded bios I'm going to be patient as possible.... Z77 is a shit (not the greatest) platform for DDR3 overclocking AGAIN - Z97 OC formula and a 4690K (or similar cpu) and you'll probably be hitting over 2800mhz+++ (1400) effectively, easily and without a bunch of pointless board bricking crossflashing. You'd be better off, as I've already told you - which you don't listen much for good accurate direction - to just ask for a modded bios from our archives that will work for the board. Also -- -- -- QUIT CALLING EVERYTHING GARBAGE None of this you're learning is garbage, but consistently talk as if you KNOW and UNDERSTAND it's garbage and WHY. No D9's aren't garbage, or some bios crossflash bios revision is garbage. _________________ 3 things. Cooling. Know the hardware and it's limitations. Practice. _________________ Cooling, no setting an air cooler on a CPU does not work the same as securing a heat sink. This is not "good" cooling. Know the hardware (limitations) = research and lower your expectations. You're not getting NEW hardware but used and mostly not working properly hardware. This shit ain't gonna clock like you want to expect. Practice = This one should speak for it's self, and you're on the right path. But before you call ANY hardware garbage, practice more first, it's usually the user that isn't getting something correct. _________________ Before you QUOTE AND REPLY to this post - READ IT 3 TIMES FIRST. Then reply. K??? Welp z77 or z68 is the only thing available, z87 and 97 and overpriced af, best alternative i have is just shoving a tec on my g2030 and undervolting it, if its running subzero the imc should be less shit, if i dont find a good deal on haswell i may aswell just go straight to ryzen and ddr4 Also i just like crossflashing and upgrading boards with abysmal bios cause its free performance, p5q to p5qd w maximus ii ebb 530 -> 570fsb max (these boards oc like trash anyways only good for ram oc), extreme4 to oc formula (hot garbage voltage ranges to ok ish voltage ranges), so if i can get my stupid bios clip to work ill try to crossflash the z77m d3h so i can sell it as a boosted board. Also any alternatives to horrible bios clips that dont involve desoldering? (my solder equipment is literally just a crappy generic solder iron) and also its impossible to brick a board with crossflashing for all i know since its a matter of reflashing the bios and its back to normal, that extreme4 is just trash so it just powerbutton shorted and became effectively dead, not even dunking it in water even made it attempt to turn on (last ditch cleaning method yes mobo fully discharged first w cmos clear for a minute), all my asus are fine with crossflash even to the weirdest of crossflash shenanigans like p5q to biostar tp45 (which tbh i have no idea how that even worked, but biostar bios is quite abysmal due to relying on offsets and this p5q wont just turn into a convertible and benifit from the tp45 bios) wait when did i say d9s were garbage? I dont exactly recall saying d9s are garbage, theyre the top ddr2 ics after all with maybe some low volt elpida stuff lagging abit behind them, and ddr4 theyre very close to the top, behind bdie but better than djr assuming its some regular bin incapable of 5000 Edit: nvm a new deal on z87 popped up, asus z87 plus at 42$, quite expensive but ill be getting ~33$ per z68/77 that i sell (after fixing em) so should be affordable once i get this god damn d3h sold which may be helped if i crossflash the bios cause i assume ppl know these things have trash bios, i mean theres no vccsa adjustment so its effectively a joke bios from a h61
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 9, 2022 21:02:48 GMT -5
You do not understand or something when you crossflash a board with a different bios being the same manufacturer it can kill the board. Do you think the VRM on your D3H is the same as the VRM on a UD5H no the VRM controller chip is different and they are configured differently. I have bricked boards before from crossflashing them so I will tell you from experience it does happen but you will learn the hard way. You will also learn that crossflashing in a lot of cases will work but you still wont have the performance of the top grade board it will be an improvement over the shit you had but nowhere near as good as the actual board you are flashing it to.
Asus Z87 Plus another B Grade motherboard you seem to expect top tier performance and options from low grade motherboards. Get a decent Z97 board Maximus Hero VII would do. All the boards you buy are B grade save your money and buy something decent for once you wont be disappointed.
Also throw that G2030 out and get a G3258 they are unlocked and you will get a decent overclock out of it because lets face it you are only going to get around 105 Baseclock out of Z87 doesnt make for an exciting overclock
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Aug 9, 2022 21:05:35 GMT -5
I'm going to be patient as possible.... Z77 is a shit (not the greatest) platform for DDR3 overclocking AGAIN - Z97 OC formula and a 4690K (or similar cpu) and you'll probably be hitting over 2800mhz+++ (1400) effectively, easily and without a bunch of pointless board bricking crossflashing. You'd be better off, as I've already told you - which you don't listen much for good accurate direction - to just ask for a modded bios from our archives that will work for the board. Also -- -- -- QUIT CALLING EVERYTHING GARBAGE None of this you're learning is garbage, but consistently talk as if you KNOW and UNDERSTAND it's garbage and WHY. No D9's aren't garbage, or some bios crossflash bios revision is garbage. _________________ 3 things. Cooling. Know the hardware and it's limitations. Practice. _________________ Cooling, no setting an air cooler on a CPU does not work the same as securing a heat sink. This is not "good" cooling. Know the hardware (limitations) = research and lower your expectations. You're not getting NEW hardware but used and mostly not working properly hardware. This shit ain't gonna clock like you want to expect. Practice = This one should speak for it's self, and you're on the right path. But before you call ANY hardware garbage, practice more first, it's usually the user that isn't getting something correct. _________________ Before you QUOTE AND REPLY to this post - READ IT 3 TIMES FIRST. Then reply. K??? Welp z77 or z68 is the only thing available, z87 and 97 and overpriced af, best alternative i have is just shoving a tec on my g2030 and undervolting it, if its running subzero the imc should be less shit, if i dont find a good deal on haswell i may aswell just go straight to ryzen and ddr4 Also i just like crossflashing and upgrading boards with abysmal bios cause its free performance, p5q to p5qd w maximus ii ebb 530 -> 570fsb max (these boards oc like trash anyways only good for ram oc), extreme4 to oc formula (hot garbage voltage ranges to ok ish voltage ranges), so if i can get my stupid bios clip to work ill try to crossflash the z77m d3h so i can sell it as a boosted board. Also any alternatives to horrible bios clips that dont involve desoldering? (my solder equipment is literally just a crappy generic solder iron) and also its impossible to brick a board with crossflashing for all i know since its a matter of reflashing the bios and its back to normal, that extreme4 is just trash so it just powerbutton shorted and became effectively dead, not even dunking it in water even made it attempt to turn on (last ditch cleaning method yes mobo fully discharged first w cmos clear for a minute), all my asus are fine with crossflash even to the weirdest of crossflash shenanigans like p5q to biostar tp45 (which tbh i have no idea how that even worked, but biostar bios is quite abysmal due to relying on offsets and this p5q wont just turn into a convertible and benifit from the tp45 bios) wait when did i say d9s were garbage? I dont exactly recall saying d9s are garbage, theyre the top ddr2 ics after all with maybe some low volt elpida stuff lagging abit behind them, and ddr4 theyre very close to the top, behind bdie but better than djr assuming its some regular bin incapable of 5000 Edit: nvm a new deal on z87 popped up, asus z87 plus at 42$, quite expensive but ill be getting ~33$ per z68/77 that i sell (after fixing em) so should be affordable once i get this god damn d3h sold which may be helped if i crossflash the bios cause i assume ppl know these things have trash bios, i mean theres no vccsa adjustment so its effectively a joke bios from a h61 Lol man, I just used the D9 as some off the wall example. P5Q, there's probably a fist full of confirmed good working bios files in our bios repository. All you gotta do is ask. You can still call it cross flashing. 42 dollars? That's not really expensive.
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Aug 9, 2022 21:38:49 GMT -5
Welp z77 or z68 is the only thing available, z87 and 97 and overpriced af, best alternative i have is just shoving a tec on my g2030 and undervolting it, if its running subzero the imc should be less shit, if i dont find a good deal on haswell i may aswell just go straight to ryzen and ddr4 Also i just like crossflashing and upgrading boards with abysmal bios cause its free performance, p5q to p5qd w maximus ii ebb 530 -> 570fsb max (these boards oc like trash anyways only good for ram oc), extreme4 to oc formula (hot garbage voltage ranges to ok ish voltage ranges), so if i can get my stupid bios clip to work ill try to crossflash the z77m d3h so i can sell it as a boosted board. Also any alternatives to horrible bios clips that dont involve desoldering? (my solder equipment is literally just a crappy generic solder iron) and also its impossible to brick a board with crossflashing for all i know since its a matter of reflashing the bios and its back to normal, that extreme4 is just trash so it just powerbutton shorted and became effectively dead, not even dunking it in water even made it attempt to turn on (last ditch cleaning method yes mobo fully discharged first w cmos clear for a minute), all my asus are fine with crossflash even to the weirdest of crossflash shenanigans like p5q to biostar tp45 (which tbh i have no idea how that even worked, but biostar bios is quite abysmal due to relying on offsets and this p5q wont just turn into a convertible and benifit from the tp45 bios) wait when did i say d9s were garbage? I dont exactly recall saying d9s are garbage, theyre the top ddr2 ics after all with maybe some low volt elpida stuff lagging abit behind them, and ddr4 theyre very close to the top, behind bdie but better than djr assuming its some regular bin incapable of 5000 Edit: nvm a new deal on z87 popped up, asus z87 plus at 42$, quite expensive but ill be getting ~33$ per z68/77 that i sell (after fixing em) so should be affordable once i get this god damn d3h sold which may be helped if i crossflash the bios cause i assume ppl know these things have trash bios, i mean theres no vccsa adjustment so its effectively a joke bios from a h61 Lol man, I just used the D9 as some off the wall example. P5Q, there's probably a fist full of confirmed good working bios files in our bios repository. All you gotta do is ask. You can still call it cross flashing. 42 dollars? That's not really expensive. Bruh im 15 course its expensive for now, but with abit of flipping more mobos i should be able to get it pretty soon, gotta wait for this d3h to sell Also what can i use to crossflash this d3h to a ds3h? At this point i just need this thing sold so i can get more boards to fix and resell for $ so pretty much wanna do anything i can to make it sell, also will intel flash utility be able to crossflash this board? Theres gotta be some commands i can use in cmd to bypass any restrictions on flashing bios, i think ive seen a vid on yt where someone bypassed some old asus windows flashing utility protections from rollback or crossflash so theres prob an equivalent for intel flash utility if it has any garbage protections Tried to access the bios repository but the thing said it was empty And i belive theres another method to crossflash w/o programmer which is modifying the checksum of the bios i wanna flash, i think the my digital life forums have some info on this but unsure on where to start, might just be easier to use a bios programmer rather than bothering with checksum modding
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Aug 9, 2022 23:22:05 GMT -5
Lol man, I just used the D9 as some off the wall example. P5Q, there's probably a fist full of confirmed good working bios files in our bios repository. All you gotta do is ask. You can still call it cross flashing. 42 dollars? That's not really expensive. Bruh im 15 course its expensive for now, but with abit of flipping more mobos i should be able to get it pretty soon, gotta wait for this d3h to sell Also what can i use to crossflash this d3h to a ds3h? At this point i just need this thing sold so i can get more boards to fix and resell for $ so pretty much wanna do anything i can to make it sell, also will intel flash utility be able to crossflash this board? Theres gotta be some commands i can use in cmd to bypass any restrictions on flashing bios, i think ive seen a vid on yt where someone bypassed some old asus windows flashing utility protections from rollback or crossflash so theres prob an equivalent for intel flash utility if it has any garbage protections Tried to access the bios repository but the thing said it was empty And i belive theres another method to crossflash w/o programmer which is modifying the checksum of the bios i wanna flash, i think the my digital life forums have some info on this but unsure on where to start, might just be easier to use a bios programmer rather than bothering with checksum modding You have to ask Mr.Scott for a bios for a particular board and he gives you one if there is one available. A job after school would help you afford things. At least that's how I was doing it at your age. SS has proof I paid in taxes. Are jobs not available in your area? Make some money doing odds and ends for old people around your neighborhood?
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 10, 2022 3:18:27 GMT -5
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Aug 10, 2022 12:08:00 GMT -5
Looking around for info on intel fpt i found this github thingy for neutralising intel me github.com/mostav02/Remove_IntelME_FPTNot interested in that but interested in the part where the chip may be protected, this seems to be more focused on oem machines and mobos so not sure if the fd rx7 on an enthusiast board like the z77m d3h is already unlocked or not
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 10, 2022 18:15:59 GMT -5
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Aug 10, 2022 18:53:58 GMT -5
So the x bioses are better than the non x bioses? Z77 Ds3h is basically guaranteed compatible with my d3h cause its the same vrm but the highest end ds bios is the z77x d3h which im not sure is compatible with the z77m d3h, the vrms look different thats for sure. Im also unsure if i can also flash ud bioses on this ds board but later when i get a properly working clip
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 10, 2022 23:33:18 GMT -5
The only way to know is suck it and see if it burns the board after the flash it does if it doesnt well you will be okay
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Aug 11, 2022 0:54:11 GMT -5
The only way to know is suck it and see if it burns the board after the flash it does if it doesnt well you will be okay Any way to make these garbage bios clips work? I cant flash and cant recover non socketed bios cause garbage bios clip dont work at all, only idea that i could come up with to make these clips less garbage is putting a small coat of water on the bios chip pins so it acts like a wire between the contacts of the clip and the pins of the bios chip
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 11, 2022 2:52:49 GMT -5
Water on the pins wont work what doesnt it clip onto the bios chip at all or you are just trying to flash it and it wont flash.
How exactly are trying to do this have you got a bios chip that came with the clip that you plug into the other end of the cable on the clip boot the board and take the clip off then program the chip on the board or are you just trying to plug the clip into the programmer and onto the chip and program it directly.
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Aug 11, 2022 7:52:55 GMT -5
Water on the pins wont work what doesnt it clip onto the bios chip at all or you are just trying to flash it and it wont flash. How exactly are trying to do this have you got a bios chip that came with the clip that you plug into the other end of the cable on the clip boot the board and take the clip off then program the chip on the board or are you just trying to plug the clip into the programmer and onto the chip and program it directly. The latter Im using the bios clip thats included with the ch341a
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Aug 11, 2022 10:16:28 GMT -5
Tried using fpt to flash but it just gives an error 201 Is it something to do with bios chip protections? Times like this when i wish that pos bios clip actually worked
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 11, 2022 18:42:45 GMT -5
You are running it in windows try running it in DOS. Boot from a bootable USB flash drive you know how to set one up?
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Post by somerandomtechyboi on Aug 11, 2022 19:35:16 GMT -5
You are running it in windows try running it in DOS. Boot from a bootable USB flash drive you know how to set one up? Use rufus to make it a bootable freedos usb?
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Post by Vinster on Aug 11, 2022 21:11:38 GMT -5
You are running it in windows try running it in DOS. Boot from a bootable USB flash drive you know how to set one up? Use rufus to make it a bootable freedos usb? yep, and run the dos application to flash it.
Vin
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Post by georgekokovinis on Aug 11, 2022 21:41:39 GMT -5
EXCUSE ME !!!
How can I stop receiving notifications in my mail about "new posts" of this thread ?
Please advise.
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Post by Bones on Aug 11, 2022 21:50:47 GMT -5
EXCUSE ME !!! How can I stop receiving notifications in my mail about "new posts" of this thread ? Please advise. Should be able to disable this in your profile under notifications, just make sure you have all mail settings set to "Off" and that should stop it.
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Post by georgekokovinis on Aug 11, 2022 21:53:01 GMT -5
EXCUSE ME !!! How can I stop receiving notifications in my mail about "new posts" of this thread ? Please advise. Should be able to disable this in your profile under notifications, just make sure you have all mail settings set to "Off" and that should stop it. Thanks Rodney. Much appreciated buddy.
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