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Post by ShrimpBrime on Oct 9, 2021 12:13:51 GMT -5
You'll want a modified bios. I mean, yeah try the stock bios, but probably better off with a mod on that Ultra-B
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Post by entilzha on Oct 9, 2021 12:25:29 GMT -5
Ultra B.....someday I will find another.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Oct 9, 2021 17:21:11 GMT -5
Overrated. That's why I got rid of all mine. Had 5 total. Blew 2 up, sold off the other 3. Limited vcore and vdimm. Volt mods kill the board instantly. Only thing I found about that board was incredible FSB and only good for Pi benching.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Oct 9, 2021 17:23:23 GMT -5
BTW, I highly recommend the TicTac bios. I can provide when you're ready.
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Post by Bones on Oct 9, 2021 23:14:13 GMT -5
Overrated. That's why I got rid of all mine. Had 5 total. Blew 2 up, sold off the other 3. Limited vcore and vdimm. Volt mods kill the board instantly. Only thing I found about that board was incredible FSB and only good for Pi benching. Yep - Those tend to be delicate, I had two Infinity's and one just quit working one day for no apparent reason. Mr. Scott has that one and don't know if he's ever messed with it to see if it would start working again, the other one works but I haven't done anything with it for awhile now. The lone Ultra B I've got is more or less a trophy piece since not only is it still stock/unmodified but it's in the box with all the goodies it came with.
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Post by entilzha on Oct 10, 2021 13:03:25 GMT -5
I pinged the guy I sold mine to a couple months ago to see if he wanted to sell it back. He's not in the mood yet. I had all the extras in that OEM box, too.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Oct 10, 2021 13:07:17 GMT -5
I wouldn't sell it back either. Don't see them around much any more.
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Post by zila1 on Oct 10, 2021 13:29:56 GMT -5
I killed my Ultra B a long time ago. Tossed it in the trash. It actually caught on fire while on the test bench. I guess I pushed it too hard. Singed the hairs on my arms. ROFLMAO. I shit myself when that happened. Then I got a really nice DFI NFII Ultra Infinity. I have had in storage for years. I checked on it the other day. It blew the caps while in storage. Now I will have to recap it. I didn't have very much luck with those.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Oct 10, 2021 13:53:21 GMT -5
Honestly my Asus board was pretty robust. Granted wasn't a DFI board, but it took on a few processors here and there no problem.
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Post by eidairman1 on Oct 10, 2021 14:06:31 GMT -5
Overrated. That's why I got rid of all mine. Had 5 total. Blew 2 up, sold off the other 3. Limited vcore and vdimm. Volt mods kill the board instantly. Only thing I found about that board was incredible FSB and only good for Pi benching. Overrated. That's why I got rid of all mine. Had 5 total. Blew 2 up, sold off the other 3. Limited vcore and vdimm. Volt mods kill the board instantly. Only thing I found about that board was incredible FSB and only good for Pi benching. Yep - Those tend to be delicate, I had two Infinity's and one just quit working one day for no apparent reason. Mr. Scott has that one and don't know if he's ever messed with it to see if it would start working again, the other one works but I haven't done anything with it for awhile now. The lone Ultra B I've got is more or less a trophy piece since not only is it still stock/unmodified but it's in the box with all the goodies it came with. In 2006 when I got it, it was a OCers Weapon of Choice beyond the NF7 by abit(whichever revision they were). I will not be doing volt mods,just a FSB and multi OC. You'll want a modified bios. I mean, yeah try the stock bios, but probably better off with a mod on that Ultra-B BTW, I highly recommend the TicTac bios. I can provide when you're ready. I will be reverting to the best stock bios they had then may consider a mod bios at that point. Overrated. That's why I got rid of all mine. Had 5 total. Blew 2 up, sold off the other 3. Limited vcore and vdimm. Volt mods kill the board instantly. Only thing I found about that board was incredible FSB and only good for Pi benching. Yep - Those tend to be delicate, I had two Infinity's and one just quit working one day for no apparent reason. Mr. Scott has that one and don't know if he's ever messed with it to see if it would start working again, the other one works but I haven't done anything with it for awhile now. The lone Ultra B I've got is more or less a trophy piece since not only is it still stock/unmodified but it's in the box with all the goodies it came with. My board came from ebay as a bare board, which is ok because I got my own IDE round and sleeved SATA cables for it. Honestly my Asus board was pretty robust. Granted wasn't a DFI board, but it took on a few processors here and there no problem. I had an Asus P4 533FSB AGP8X Board, that POS was a PITA to get working with a ATi AIW 9700 Pro. I was dumbfounded when I had a MSI K7N2 Delta-L and the card worked right off the back, just never could OC on the mobo... When I finally can rent a House I will for sure be building this 462 rig in another case, and then water cool this and the FX rig, then upgrade to Threadripper DDR5 lol
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Post by eidairman1 on Oct 10, 2021 21:34:05 GMT -5
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Post by Mr.Scott on Oct 11, 2021 18:43:44 GMT -5
I have it. It is more set up for 3D gaming and benching 3D. There are better all around bios's.
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Post by eidairman1 on Oct 12, 2021 19:31:51 GMT -5
Im figuring as much as OCs werent desirable with them. Maybe i will have better luck this go around knowing way more about fsb/multi oc than I did in 2003-2006...
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Post by entilzha on Mar 29, 2022 21:17:02 GMT -5
New gots: new VRM caps for my NF7-S. New caps are far higher rated, and went with polymers for some as you can see below. The old caps were actually still fine when tested, so I'll have to dig further on if the board has issues. I have a pile of CPUs and memory to swap in and out for troubleshooting. Attachments:
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Post by Bones on Mar 29, 2022 21:18:53 GMT -5
Probrably need to do that to mine one day.
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Post by entilzha on Mar 29, 2022 21:22:52 GMT -5
I actually don't know what I'm going to do with this machine if I can get it going. Planning on Win XP Pro on one of my older SATA SSD's. I have a GF3 Ti200 and a Kyro II I can use (along with some junky GF4 MX's if need be).
All of my old games have been ported to Steam now, such as the remastered Halo series and all of the old Star Wars DOS games. I could use some ideas.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Mar 29, 2022 21:28:12 GMT -5
6800 GT
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Post by entilzha on Jun 9, 2022 21:50:40 GMT -5
Well I got a 6800 GT Golden Sample now. Haven't yet tested it. Problem: I'm getting stuck on Memtest. I've swapped ram, and increased voltages on the CPU, chipset and memory to higher than stock. It keeps stopping at this point. Only other thing I can do is swap the CPU out..... Attachments:
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Post by entilzha on Jun 9, 2022 23:38:34 GMT -5
I swapped CPUs to a Barton 3200+ to no avail. I don't know what's going on here.... Here's the other CPU's I have.
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Post by entilzha on Jun 9, 2022 23:39:17 GMT -5
Two more pics. The AXDA3000 puzzles me. The AQXCA stepping doesn't correspond to that chip on CPU World. I didn't know that Bartons shared the brown and green substrates either. All chips specs: AMD 3200+, Barton, AQYHA, 400x11 AMD 3000+, Barton, AQXCA, 400x10.5 AMD 2500+, Barton, AQXEA, 333x11 AMD 2400+, T-Bred, AIXIB, 266x15 AMD 1700+, Palomino, AGOGA, 266x11 Attachments:
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jun 9, 2022 23:53:20 GMT -5
Clean the memory slots you can use slots 2 and 3 I would start with 1 stick in slot 2 and see how it goes if it passes I would put the other stick in and try that. then I would try slot 3 with single sticks if you find one slot is playing up try some shop towel wrapped around a old credit card and sprayed with contact cleaner push it in and out of the slots to clean the fingers.
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Post by entilzha on Aug 2, 2022 21:24:21 GMT -5
Had some spare time tonight so I decide to take another whack at it. Cranked voltages to ridiculous levels to no avail. Reset the bios to defaults to no joy. Swapped ram sticks to smaller ones to get through the testing quicker.
So, I yanked the 3200+ out and put the 2400+ in. Rest bios to defaults again, and now it seems to be playing fine....maybe my 3200+ is busted?
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Post by freeagent on Aug 4, 2022 17:23:13 GMT -5
I used a Mobile 2500+ Barton with my old NF7-S. One thing that I remember about some of TicTac bioses is that they were really tight.. Was good for ram with ram running at 2-3-3, could never get 2-2-2 to run though Heck 2.5 would almost never run with my sticks, and thats what they were rated for.. only run C2 lol.. dammit OCZ you had one job. Pretty sure I was running closer to if not more than 2v for top clocks at 2700ish or so. I have some screen shots somewhere.
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Post by entilzha on Aug 9, 2022 10:02:26 GMT -5
I had Mushkin Black DDR-3500 2-2-2 way back. Wish I never sold them now.
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Post by Bones on Aug 9, 2022 16:36:14 GMT -5
Had some spare time tonight so I decide to take another whack at it. Cranked voltages to ridiculous levels to no avail. Reset the bios to defaults to no joy. Swapped ram sticks to smaller ones to get through the testing quicker. So, I yanked the 3200+ out and put the 2400+ in. Rest bios to defaults again, and now it seems to be playing fine.... maybe my 3200+ is busted?Most likely but then again I have one (XP-M 2500) that acts dead in certain boards, in others it does just fine. It's finiky about what board you put it in but it's also a good clocker too, I know it's hit 2.9 on chilled before. I was going to toss it at one point but never did and glad I didn't, it was playing possum for the longest in a couple of boards - It finally woke up in yet another, started working and that was before it hit 2.9 for me. At least try the 3200 in a different board before writing it off.
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Aug 9, 2022 19:29:38 GMT -5
When you say that you replaced the VRM caps you replaced the 3300uf 6.3v ones close to the socket? the Polymars that you have put in are only 12v filter caps. Also did your soldering go good I hope you are using a strong iron and you got smooth solder joints not dry crusty ones. Generally if a board of that age acts up especially with multiple CPUs it can be a cap problem also it doesnt have to be the CPU VRM caps that are bad there are NB caps mem caps that can make it exhibit the problems that you are seeing with it.
Memory those Mushkin Black 3500 that you had would proberly been Winbond BH5 chipped. There are 2 types of memory that I would use BH5 or TCCD. Both will do 2-2-2-5 at 200mhz BH5 needs volts a voltmod to the board or a OCZ ram booster run mem at 3.6v they will do 2-2-2-5 at 250Mhz TCCD doesnt need high volts in fact doesnt like it 3v max and will run fine at 2.8v but you will probably only get to 220Mhz before you have to start loosening timings. Also 256Mb sticks are preferred. Good Luck with it.
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Post by entilzha on Aug 9, 2022 19:39:10 GMT -5
My father is a wizard solder master, so I asked him to do the cap job for me, and he purchased them as well. He bought a batch for his old A7N8X as well so I can tinker with that.
Yes, my old Mushkin was BH5. Was good ram.
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