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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 6:59:17 GMT -5
Shouldn't we be trying to get more members so we can be No.1 again ?
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Post by Bones on Mar 16, 2021 8:40:29 GMT -5
Do you have anyone in mind? If so, you know what to do.
I've been keeping an eye out myself for guys that may want to sign on and have some fun.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 16, 2021 11:21:51 GMT -5
We have always been #1.
But the more the merrier.
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Post by Vinster on Mar 16, 2021 11:39:07 GMT -5
We're always willing to have new people join. How much they want to contribute is up to them.
Vin
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 16, 2021 16:19:20 GMT -5
Shouldn't we be trying to get more members so we can be No.1 again ? For a more serious answer:: This team doesn't have sponsored members like OCN for example. Nothing on this team or for this team is sponsored. Warp9 made first and held it a few years on Sheer team progress only. Members have come and gone. Same with the points. Our average however is always climbing despite the loss of some members here and there. It's really very much their loss. So there is ZERO opportunity for some of the big hitters to come here. There are Zero technology affiliates that are registered at this forum. And that means Zero opportunity to get sponsored. ________________ Nobody really overclocks anymore. World Wide season ranking by submissions 1103 people. Quite a few of them are new guys with one shots. They post a sub and most don't come back. (To HWBot) Out of those 1103 people, 158 made submissions to extreme league. This number out of a grand total of 31144 people world wide out of roughly 7.5 Trillion people that could potentially own a PC and overclock. The season ranking is a number that is a very small fraction of say 15 years ago when it was heavily popular. If you can find people that take our same interest and get them over here, by all means do invite them. Wish this hobby was a lot more popular, but it just isn't. The YouTubers like Linus Tech and JayZ2cents are in the center ring. They DO NOT promote HWBot and overclocking for a sport. Those guys focus on the young crowds and daily gaming rig overclocks and tweaks. Sure, they've done some crazy videos showing cool stuff. However they do not promote people to try it. They could promote HWBot and bring a lot of interest into the hobby and probably very easily I might add. They are super popular. HWBot submission form for new people is way too complicated. The wrapper should auto fill 90% of the submission form. NO, it's geared for Anti-Cheat and W8-10 RTC correction. That's just the main issue for a new guy. They want just set it up and run it, but cannot meet the demand to make it easy. Sure, I got my score and it took less time to produce the score than to submit it online. That's a big draw back. And just the start of what steers people away. But yeah, you gotta try and get a guy interested. He's new too. No clue what's going on. Needs training. Doesn't have access to sub zero temps. Then gets discouraged because all the competition and points are in new hardware and sub zero temps. Well enough rambling. But that's my angle, plenty more I can easily add, but I don't feel like typing it all out. I've been looking for recruits. Believe me, it's not easy.
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Post by georgekokovinis on Mar 16, 2021 16:29:26 GMT -5
Spot on Love statistics. Numbers never lie.
I have been closely observing statistics for the last two years. It is an accelerating down slope.
Whoever believes that there is a chance for a comeback is at least naive.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 16:35:54 GMT -5
Naive , that's me then .
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Post by georgekokovinis on Mar 16, 2021 16:48:09 GMT -5
Paul, can you simply get rid of the habbit of isolating words ? You are extremely new at HWBOT to know history ( and tons of shit ), that have happened. Moreover if you knew things from behind the curtains. I am saying the above with neutral and objective stance. No offence or insult intended. BTW, have you seem ( except Bones ) any other LN2 submission from our Team for at least 6 months ?
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 16, 2021 16:51:55 GMT -5
BTW, have you seen ( except Bones ) any other LN2 submission from our Team for at least 6 months ? Yeah, mine. <---- you're looking right at it. 8700K 6ghz and Strix GTX 980 air.
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Post by georgekokovinis on Mar 16, 2021 16:59:19 GMT -5
BTW, have you seen ( except Bones ) any other LN2 submission from our Team for at least 6 months ? Yeah, mine. <---- you're looking right at it. 8700K 6ghz and Strix GTX 980 air. Sorry Jon
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 16, 2021 17:28:04 GMT -5
Yeah, mine. <---- you're looking right at it. 8700K 6ghz and Strix GTX 980 air. Sorry Jon I didn't make a lot of subs. 22L goes quick in the Dice pot. But that's what I has to work with atm.
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Post by zila1 on Mar 16, 2021 17:44:48 GMT -5
Jon you hit the nail right on the head with your comments above. Right on the money.
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Post by WhiteWulfe on Mar 16, 2021 17:46:15 GMT -5
I think another big thing is rules regularly changing, and worse, changing big rules in the middle of competitions.
There's also a large lack of actual support for novices (other than a lot of voices shouting out "join us!") and even more so competitions geared towards keeping newcomers there and continuing. On top of all that, there's also the fact after rookie league they pretty much ignore the ambient cooled folk.
As for fewer overclocking, tech has gotten so good that the average person isn't forced to do such in order to gain noticeable improvements in games, because there's been a huge shift from raw power to efficiency the past ten years. What used to cost thousands for a "good enough" gaming rig is now a thousand and it will hold its own.
Some of us would still do sub-zero cooling if we were able to acquire such things, although desire to bench isn't anywhere near as strong as it used to be.
And as for large groups like OCN, I'll just say this: it sounds like a good idea, but once you get deeper into the inner circle gawds there's a lot of stupidity and personal scrabbling that goes on... High school was at least somewhat enjoyable.
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Post by georgekokovinis on Mar 16, 2021 17:49:24 GMT -5
Sorry Jon I didn't make a lot of subs. 22L goes quick in the Dice pot. But that's what I has to work with atm. The effort is important Jon. Our Team stays alive from the effort of no more than 10-12 members. Most are on the sidelines. And i FULLY understand that.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 16, 2021 18:23:52 GMT -5
I didn't make a lot of subs. 22L goes quick in the Dice pot. But that's what I has to work with atm. The effort is important Jon. Our Team stays alive from the effort of no more than 10-12 members. Most are on the sidelines. And i FULLY understand that. For leisure my friend. Just to get in where I fit in, so to say. And if that's 2nd place to a monster team, then I'm super happy!! Personally in the top 100 OCer's in the US, I'm super Happy!! Have some good friends to compare notes and chat with, Super Duper Happy!! Rank 1st at HWBot? == Means nothing to me. We been there and done it already. Without their recruiting, OCN would still be in 2nd place. Super Happy to know that fact!! You guys are 1st place. Just gotta realize it yet
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Post by georgekokovinis on Mar 16, 2021 18:34:00 GMT -5
The effort is important Jon. Our Team stays alive from the effort of no more than 10-12 members. Most are on the sidelines. And i FULLY understand that. For leisure my friend. Just to get in where I fit in, so to say. And if that's 2nd place to a monster team, then I'm super happy!! Personally in the top 100 OCer's in the US, I'm super Happy!! Have some good friends to compare notes and chat with, Super Duper Happy!! Rank 1st at HWBot? == Means nothing to me. We been there and done it already. Without their recruiting, OCN would still be in 2nd place. Super Happy to know that fact!! You guys are 1st place. Just gotta realize it yet I will second that ! It is actually passion against tons of money, sponsors and manufacturers support. Indeed, if we leave these parameters out, we are n.1
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 16, 2021 19:22:52 GMT -5
For leisure my friend. Just to get in where I fit in, so to say. And if that's 2nd place to a monster team, then I'm super happy!! Personally in the top 100 OCer's in the US, I'm super Happy!! Have some good friends to compare notes and chat with, Super Duper Happy!! Rank 1st at HWBot? == Means nothing to me. We been there and done it already. Without their recruiting, OCN would still be in 2nd place. Super Happy to know that fact!! You guys are 1st place. Just gotta realize it yet I will second that ! It is actually passion against tons of money, sponsors and manufacturers support. Indeed, if we leave these parameters out, we are n.1 No greed over here my man. Passion. Cheers to that!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 19:48:24 GMT -5
Might have more people coming our way . Im on a mission now .
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Post by Vinster on Mar 18, 2021 17:23:07 GMT -5
Without their recruiting, OCN would still be in 2nd place. Super Happy to know that fact!! You guys are 1st place. Just gotta realize it yet THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Post by Bones on Mar 19, 2021 13:57:47 GMT -5
I will second that ! It is actually passion against tons of money, sponsors and manufacturers support. Indeed, if we leave these parameters out, we are n.1 You can look for example what I've been doing with no support of any kind aside from what I provide myself. While it is true $$ makes a difference there is also skill involved too with it. Others here besides myself have shown to be contenders and it really does take passion to pursue and preservere against the odds we face everytime we fire up a system to bench. George, you're one of the guys I must count as being a part of this, you've shown time and time again what you can do like others here have done, Mac is yet another example of "World Class" benching, he contends everytime he goes at it regardless of the platform he's running. Mr. Scott holds his own with what he does too. The guys that's joined recently, namely Spit and Ash have really outdone themselves with what they have already shown and I know there will be more to come.
When you hear talk about teams with "Big Guns" we have a few here that not only qualify for, they truly are big guns. I'm sure if someone brings it up about who's on what team to look out for in various benches, platform/ sockets and so on we have some names in that hat too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 14:51:03 GMT -5
bullants ....the best I have ever seen ! We have also have someone rather special at ambient , Chris I like the fact that we have a small number of members here and it's easy to get to know everyone but few more overclockers here would see our scores climbing. I am sure we all know one or two people that could be "persuaded " to join up
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Post by Bones on Mar 19, 2021 15:30:34 GMT -5
Bully is the best at Super PI I know of and also for RAM tweaking in general. If there is a RAM tweak he probrably knows it.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Mar 19, 2021 15:34:54 GMT -5
I am sure we all know one or two people that could be "persuaded " to join up You would be surprised at how loyal people are to their original teams. I find very few that team jump even if they're on a shit team. I try to recruit all the time.
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Post by georgekokovinis on Mar 19, 2021 15:49:30 GMT -5
I am sure we all know one or two people that could be "persuaded " to join up You would be surprised at how loyal people are to their original teams. I find very few that team jump even if they're on a shit team. I try to recruit all the time. Having the " priviledge " to know at least 50% of the Elite and Extreme groups, and indeed some in person, I can reassure that OCN collected so many valuable ( points wise ) members with bribary. Sorry I can't enter into more details. Never mentioned anything even to my dear friend and captain. The same answer came from all my connections - How much and what gifts shall I get.
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Post by Mr.Scott on Mar 19, 2021 16:07:12 GMT -5
You would be surprised at how loyal people are to their original teams. I find very few that team jump even if they're on a shit team. I try to recruit all the time. Having the " priviledge " to know at least 50% of the Elite and Extreme groups, and indeed some in person, I can reassure that OCN collected so many valuable ( points wise ) members with bribary. Sorry I can't enter into more details. Never mentioned anything even to my dear friend and captain. The same answer came from all my connections - How much and what gifts shall I get. Not a problem George, I figured as much.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 16:08:52 GMT -5
The people I am looking for are ones that are just overclocking for fun . They haven't progressed to teams or bot yet but you can see they have a gift for it . I would never try poaching someone from another team , that is a no no for me .
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Post by Vinster on Mar 19, 2021 19:38:54 GMT -5
The people I am looking for are ones that are just overclocking for fun .
Those are the people we're interested in. just for fun. that's how we all started.
Vin
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Post by freeagent on Mar 19, 2021 20:06:09 GMT -5
I wonder if the same love is still there when you turn pro? Even after being privy to behind the scenes stuff that no mere mortal will ever witness. Going to work for a motherboard manufacturer or memory manufacturer would be the ultimate prize I would imagine.. That would be neat to put your own OC experience into a uefi for people to try to perfect and exploit.
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Post by ShrimpBrime on Mar 19, 2021 20:18:28 GMT -5
I wonder if the same love is still there when you turn pro? Even after being privy to behind the scenes stuff that no mere mortal will ever witness. Going to work for a motherboard manufacturer or memory manufacturer would be the ultimate prize I would imagine.. That would be neat to put your own OC experience into a uefi for people to try to perfect and exploit. We are Groot! I mean pro. The entire collective here, this team is a professional OC team. Just not pro sponsored. Bullants pro Super Pi and memory tweaking. Same for George. I think MacsBeach is the scientist and all platform pro. Same thing with Aleslammer. He is all platform pro. Old school legacy guys know who they are, Bones, Zila, Scotty... They are pro. Chris, major all around pro. Same this with K, benching pro grinder. Hits fab scores. Those not mentioned, you are pro too. Don't worry, you only receive professional information at this site as well as give it. Phenom, Paco, Sparkey.... Pro. Intel Guy, LewdLila Kotori, also... pro. I am least pro here. All you guys help me be pro. OCN 1000 members 2% pro. lol.' Warp9-Systems 31 members 100% pro!
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Post by freeagent on Mar 19, 2021 21:53:23 GMT -5
Oh geez.. Ok, well.. I hope you will pardon my ignorance guys, because I did not mean anything towards anyone or anything like that.. no I didn't know.. I did see the hwbot page and was pretty impressed, pretty sure I swore. I feel like a tool. Dam new guys. I was just wondering out loud! lol..
Sorry..
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