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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 21, 2018 22:49:18 GMT -5
^ No harm in trying that oz Vin im scared of doin gig bios flashing vinnie, a chip i can take out and use the bios flasher im ok with, i think a thing that gig needs to relook at, coz if you stuff it up it affects the back up bios chip as well, and if it goes back to the back up chip ans you stuff that basically the board is bricked, and thats happened to me b4, least with a removeable chip you can put another in it to bring the board back without dramas. to me its a severe downfall from gig Spi/flashkat might help or soldering a socket in place could... |
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Post by ozz on Jul 21, 2018 22:58:45 GMT -5
im scared of doin gig bios flashing vinnie, a chip i can take out and use the bios flasher im ok with, i think a thing that gig needs to relook at, coz if you stuff it up it affects the back up bios chip as well, and if it goes back to the back up chip ans you stuff that basically the board is bricked, and thats happened to me b4, least with a removeable chip you can put another in it to bring the board back without dramas. to me its a severe downfall from gig Spi/flashkat might help or soldering a socket in place could... i know nothing about Spi/flashkatand ,how is this possible when gig dont use it, on top of that , you'd need 2 sockets, 1 for the main bios chip, , and the backup bios chip, both intergrated to work, coz when the main bios chip fails it goes to the backup bios chip to be able to boot to windows or the saved setting, but if you got a both bios chip fail it doesnt and wont do anything will it ?
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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 21, 2018 23:58:34 GMT -5
You typically hook the flash device up to the chips pins and do it via that means. Mr.Scott and I believe Bones have experience in doing that.
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Post by ozz on Jul 22, 2018 0:47:58 GMT -5
you spoke of soldering a socket in place to take a removable bios chip instead of the 2 soldered chips . right ?. yes or no ? not possible without major surgery to board changes and know what youre doing to do it.and if it even works again after it
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 22, 2018 1:53:56 GMT -5
He is talking about the flash clip that I revived another board of yours with.  Didnt know that Rodney had one.  |
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Post by ozz on Jul 22, 2018 2:25:20 GMT -5
well this is what i got , yep i know about the clip on stuff but soldering a socket in place ? , obviously ive read things wrong..again
Spi/flashkat might help or soldering a socket in place could...
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 22, 2018 4:30:32 GMT -5
The clip is a Spi reverse socket.
A socket could be soldered in place of the main bios chip.
It isnt just a Gigabyte problem either all the modern Asus boards like Maximus Apex IX and Crosshair VI have soldered Bios chips.
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Post by ozz on Jul 22, 2018 8:11:48 GMT -5
righto pete thx guess ill have to start back practicing mind reading again and theyll pay for their own perils then in the long run for penny pinching when making boards
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 22, 2018 8:30:39 GMT -5
Shane if you want to come here tomorrow I will make a bootable USB flash drive and we will put the bios file on it.
Take it home plug it into a USB port boot go into the bios and make it the first boot device and when it reboots it will flash the bios without you having to do anything.
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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 22, 2018 9:33:47 GMT -5
The clip is a Spi reverse socket. A socket could be soldered in place of the main bios chip. It isnt just a Gigabyte problem either all the modern Asus boards like Maximus Apex IX and Crosshair VI have soldered Bios chips. Even my Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 is that way. Ozz no worries bud, soldering a socket on x2 yes would require some steady hands due to traces... |
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Post by Bones on Jul 22, 2018 10:04:55 GMT -5
He is talking about the flash clip that I revived another board of yours with. Didnt know that Rodney had one. I don't - Just the basic programmer itself, nothing else. |
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Post by Vinster on Jul 22, 2018 10:12:12 GMT -5
^ No harm in trying that oz Vin im scared of doin gig bios flashing vinnie, a chip i can take out and use the bios flasher im ok with, i think a thing that gig needs to relook at, coz if you stuff it up it affects the back up bios chip as well, and if it goes back to the back up chip ans you stuff that basically the board is bricked, and thats happened to me b4, least with a removeable chip you can put another in it to bring the board back without dramas. to me its a severe downfall from gig I get it. but doesn't that board have Q-Flash? it's a built in flash app.. all you do is put the bios files on a FAT16 formatted USB stick and instead of hitting delete to get in the bios I think it's F12.
app is simple, I always backup the bios before flashing. it's a quick thing
Vin
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 22, 2018 17:19:39 GMT -5
It does Vin you can also just hit F8 while in the bios. I have already told him to download put on a USB stick plug it in and go into the bios. It would actually be the easiest way. Here Shane direct from the manual just download the bios unpack it on the desktop and copy the files to a blank usb flash drive and follow these instructions. The flash drive will be formatted in Fat32 unless you change that so dont worry about that line.  Although it would probably be easier for Shane to just hit the board a couple of times with a hammer to get his frustrations out and be done with it.  |
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Post by Vinster on Jul 22, 2018 18:23:53 GMT -5
yep, that's right, F8 while in the bios... as a note though, is you have any saved profiles for overclocks, updating the bios clears these.
Vin
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 22, 2018 18:23:53 GMT -5
I will ring him later and talk him through it
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Post by ozz on Jul 22, 2018 18:34:39 GMT -5
It does Vin you can also just hit F8 while in the bios. I have already told him to download put on a USB stick plug it in and go into the bios. It would actually be the easiest way. Here Shane direct from the manual just download the bios unpack it on the desktop and copy the files to a blank usb flash drive and follow these instructions. The flash drive will be formatted in Fat32 unless you change that so dont worry about that line.
Although it would probably be easier for Shane to just hit the board a couple of times with a hammer to get his frustrations out and be done with it.  this ^^^^ you know what im like with bioses pete  im bloody hopeless with em, they confuse me to no end, ive never been able to get me head around em, gotta go to the dentist this morning to get me new chompers adjusted, ill have a go later thx boys for all your help and patience  |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 22, 2018 18:37:19 GMT -5
Ring me and I will talk you through it.
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Post by ozz on Jul 25, 2018 0:30:10 GMT -5
well i did that , doesnt want to do it, il keep trying another time ,seems to me like the FDK bios on it is locked in and wont allow the other one in to take its place, i tired the Fb & Fc bioses , same thing, i dunno what fat32 is, sounds like its name of a bloody LN2 pot to me |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 25, 2018 6:52:44 GMT -5
Qflash obviously wont let you roll back.
At the weekend after you have finished your driving I will come and flash it with a Bootable USB stick.
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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 25, 2018 16:47:55 GMT -5
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Post by ozz on Jul 26, 2018 0:42:40 GMT -5
man i know nothing about FAT anything files, i woulnt have a clue
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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 26, 2018 0:55:36 GMT -5
man i know nothing about FAT anything files, i woulnt have a clue Get a better understanding of how your files are stored on a Hard Disk Drive or Solid State Drive by reading those. |
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Post by ozz on Jul 26, 2018 1:05:06 GMT -5
man i know nothing about FAT anything files, i woulnt have a clue Get a better understanding of how your files are stored on a Hard Disk Drive or Solid State Drive by reading those. thx man but i dont understand it, that sort of software stuff to me is like jibber jabber, you gotta be able to understand what youre reading and how it works and what it does with it, i dont, im a hardware man, i can pull anything apart and put it back together, buid a pc no probs, make my own chiller system no probs, reading and understanding software stuff im as usless as tits on a bull |
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 26, 2018 7:17:32 GMT -5
I will get over there and flash the bios Shane one day when you are at home.
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Post by ozz on Jul 27, 2018 0:08:33 GMT -5
I will get over there and flash the bios Shane one day when you are at home. all good pete thx man, ill give ya a buzz later on  |
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Post by Vinster on Jul 29, 2018 11:05:17 GMT -5
qflash should let you roll back. only reason it wouldn't is if the bios memory format was modified (Small File to Large file type). Gigabyte did do that on some boards, happened on my X58-UD5. Then to roll back you have to use Dos and use some sort of "Force" switch like -f in the command.
Vin
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Post by Macsbeach98 on Jul 29, 2018 17:33:38 GMT -5
I am going to use a bootable USB flash to do it.
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Post by ozz on Jul 29, 2018 18:49:02 GMT -5
I am going to use a bootable USB flash to do it. thx @ vinnie, i tried it again last night, the red bar in qflash goes along like its accepting it but it doesnt do it and i dunno anything about file sizes ive tried the fb.exe and fc.exe files in 7zip
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Post by ozz on Jul 30, 2018 1:24:43 GMT -5
well the board is ok, pete turned up out of the blue to flash the bios for me with a bootable usb stick, unknown to me i already flashed it, it worked, im not good at this software stuff, it gets me every time, problem was me not the board or cpu, fb bios was on there i wanted to see if fc will go there to and its there, so my fault, (again) just not knowing, now im gunna have a play then onto more important stuff thx pete |
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Post by eidairman1 on Jul 30, 2018 21:47:14 GMT -5
well the board is ok, pete turned up out of the blue to flash the bios for me with a bootable usb stick, unknown to me i already flashed it, it worked, im not good at this software stuff, it gets me every time, problem was me not the board or cpu, fb bios was on there i wanted to see if fc will go there to and its there, so my fault, (again) just not knowing, now im gunna have a play then onto more important stuff thx pete Good to know, i gotta ask, on the first page you had a fx at 5.5Ghz, was that a suicide on air? |
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im bloody hopeless with em, they confuse me to no end, ive never been able to get me head around em, gotta go to the dentist this morning to get me new chompers adjusted, ill have a go later
